διὰ λόγων ἀφικνεῖσθαι
From LSJ
εἰς τὸν τετρημένον πίθον ἀντλεῖν → run water into a punctured pitcher, to the perforated jar bale water, labour in vain, labor in vain
Greek > English (Woodhouse)
converse with, discuss with, talk to, confer, confer with, have conference, have conference with