λέσχη: Difference between revisions

|Definition=ἡ, (prob. from <b class="b3">*λέχ-σκη</b>, cf. [[λέχος]]) orig. <span class="sense"><p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<span class="bld">A</span> [[couch]]: hence, [[funeral bier]] or [[tomb]], IG12(1).709 (Camirus); then, </span><span class="sense">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<span class="bld">2</span> [[lounging place]], resort of idlers or beggars, οὐδ' ἐθέλεις εὕδειν χαλκήϊον ἐς δόμον ἐλθὼν ἠέ που ἐς λέσχην <span class="bibl">Od.18.329</span>; πὰρ δ' ἴθι χάλκειον θῶκον καὶ ἐπαλέα λέσχην <span class="bibl">Hes.<span class="title">Op.</span>493</span>, cf. <span class="bibl">501</span>; <b class="b3">κατίζων ἐν ταῖς λ. τῶν γερόντων</b> Ps.- Hdt.<span class="title">Vit.Hom.</span>12. </span><span class="sense">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<span class="bld">3</span> later, [[public building]] or [[hall]], used as a [[lounge]] or [[meeting-place]], esp. at Sparta and in other Doric cities, <span class="bibl">Cratin.164</span> (pl.), cf. <span class="bibl">Paus.3.14.2</span>, <span class="bibl">Plu.<span class="title">Lyc.</span>16</span>, <span class="bibl">24</span> (pl.); also in Attica, <span class="title">IG</span>12.888, 2.1055.23, Procl.ad <span class="bibl">Hes.<span class="title">Op.</span>491</span>; at Delphi, [[hall]] adorned with paintings by Polygnotus, <span class="bibl">Luc.<span class="title">Im.</span>7</span>, <span class="bibl">Paus.10.25.1</span>; at Cnidus, [[council-chamber]], Plu.2.412d, cf. 298d; of the [[council]] of the Olympian gods, <b class="b3">Ζεὺς ἇς λέσχας ἀπηξιώσατο</b> (sc. <b class="b3">τὰς Ἐρινῦς</b>) <span class="bibl">A.<span class="title">Eu.</span>366</span> (lyr.); also <b class="b3">σύγκλητον τήνδε γερόντων λ</b>. this specially summoned [[council]], <span class="bibl">S.<span class="title">Ant.</span>161</span> (anap.). </span><span class="sense">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<span class="bld">II</span> [[talk]] or [[gossip]], such as went on in the <b class="b3">λέσχαι</b> (cf. [[λεσχηνεύω]], etc.), μακραὶ λ. <span class="bibl">E.<span class="title">Hipp.</span>384</span>, cf. <span class="bibl"><span class="title">IA</span>1001</span> (pl.), <span class="bibl">Epicr.11.32</span> (pl., anap.), <span class="bibl">LXX <span class="title">Pr.</span>23.29</span> (pl.), <span class="title">AP</span>13.6 (Phal.); in bad sense, [[malicious gossip]], [[scandal]], Vett. Val.in <span class="title">Cat.Cod.Astr.</span>8(1).165 (pl.); also in good sense, [[conversation]], [[discussion]], γενομένης λ., ὃς γένοιτο… ἄριστος <span class="bibl">Hdt.9.71</span>; ἐκ λόγων ἄλλων ἀπικέσθαι ἐς λ. περὶ τοῦ Νείλου <span class="bibl">Id.2.32</span>; <b class="b3">λόγον εἴ τιν' οἴσεις πρὸς ἐμὰν λ</b>. if thou hast aught to [[discuss]] with me, <span class="bibl">S.<span class="title">OC</span>167</span> (lyr.); αἶσαν λέσχης οἶνος ἔχειν ἐθέλει <span class="bibl">Call. <span class="title">Aet.</span>1.1.16</span>; ἥλιον ἐν λέσχῃ κατεδύσαμεν <span class="bibl">Id.<span class="title">Epigr.</span>2.3</span>; <b class="b3">λύω λέσχας</b>, 'cut the cackle', prov. for breaking off [[discussion]] and setting to work in earnest, <span class="bibl">Pl.Com.223</span>.</span>

|etymtx=Bremmer WAAR?<br />Grammatical information: f.<br />Meaning: [[room]], [[builing as meeting place]] (σ 329, Hes.); [[grave]] (Rhodos); see H. Bolkestein MAWNied. 84B : 3 (1937) 18ff.<br />Compounds: <b class="b3">ἔλ-λεσχος</b> [[commonly talked off]] (Hdt. 1, 153; from <b class="b3">ἐν λέσχῃ</b>), <b class="b3">πρό-λεσχος</b> [[eager to talk]] (A. Supp. 200; cf. <b class="b3">πρό-χειρος</b> a.o.; <b class="b3">ἀδο-λέσχης</b> (s.s.v.).<br />Derivatives: <b class="b3">λεσχήν</b>, <b class="b3">-ῆνος</b> m. [[chatterer]] (Timo 46); <b class="b3">λεσχην-εῖ ὁμιλεῖ</b>, <b class="b3">μυθολογεῖ</b> H. - <b class="b3">λεσχαῖος ἐξηγητής</b>, <b class="b3">ὁμιλητής</b> H.; <b class="b3">λεσχάραι οἷον αἱ σχολαί</b> ... (EM561, 17). See Solmsen Wortforsch. 124 f. - Two month names of unclear formation: <b class="b3">Λεσχανάσιος</b> (Tegea), <b class="b3">Λεσχανόριος</b> (Thessal., Gortyn); also <b class="b3">Ἀπόλλων Λεσχηνόριος</b> (from the <b class="b3">λέσχαι</b> which were under his protection?).<br />Origin: PG [a word of Pre-Greek origin]<br />Etymology: Mostly connected with <b class="b3">λέχος</b>, from <b class="b3">*λέχσκα</b>. As Greek has no nomin. suffix <b class="b2">-sk-</b>, and as a <b class="b2">k-</b>suffix from the zero grade <b class="b3">*λεχσ-</b> is also improbable, one assumes a <b class="b3">σκ-</b>present <b class="b3">*λέχ-σκ-εται</b> (> <b class="b3">*λέσχεται</b>); but there is no trace of this verb. The same formation was assumed for OHG. <b class="b2">lëscan</b> [[löschen]]' (as [[lie down]]); also for Celtic, e. g. OIr. [[lesc]] [[lazy]], where it is quite uncertain. - As the room was not for lying down, this etymology (supposing <b class="b3">*λεσχεται</b> really existed) is improbable. - Long ago the agreement with Hebr. [[liškah]] was observed. This cannot be ignored. It was assumed that Greek had the word from the Near East (West, East Face 38; not the other way round, ib.), but as the word is isolated in NWSemitic, Schrader (FS Jahrh.feier Univ. Breslau, 1911, 469) already assumed that both languages had it from Anatolia, which seems the most probable interpretation. Thus Fur. 295, 257, who points out that the suffix of <b class="b3">λεσχάραι</b> is non-Greek; he also points to the Hebr. variant [[niškah]], which may point to Anat. <b class="b2">l\/n</b>, as in Fur. 388. Thus now Bremmer, WAAR?<br />See also: weitere Lit. s. [[λέχεται]].