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|Transliteration C=kaiper
|Transliteration C=kaiper
|Beta Code=kai/per
|Beta Code=kai/per
|Definition=in Hom. always with a word between (exc.<span class="sense"><span class="bld">A</span> καί περ πολλὰ παθόντα <span class="bibl">Od.7.224</span>); but one word in Pi. and Prose, and usually in Trag. </span><span class="sense"><span class="bld">I</span> [[even]], καὶ αὐτοί περ πονεώμεθα <span class="bibl">Il.10.70</span>. </span><span class="sense"><span class="bld">II</span> [[although]], [[albeit]], usually c. part., καὶ αὐτῇ περ νοεούσῃ <span class="bibl">1.577</span>; καὶ ἀχνύμενός περ ἑταίρου <span class="bibl">8.125</span>; καὶ πρίν περ θυμῷ μεμαώς <span class="bibl">5.135</span>; καὶ κήδεά περ πεπαθυίῃ <span class="bibl">Od.17.555</span>: so in later Poets, κ. ἀχνύμενος <span class="bibl">Pi.<span class="title">I.</span>8(7).4</span>, cf. <span class="bibl"><span class="title">N.</span>6.6</span>; καὶ θοῦρός περ ὤν <span class="bibl">A.<span class="title">Fr.</span>199.2</span>; κ. αὐθάδη φρονῶν <span class="bibl">Id.<span class="title">Pr.</span>907</span>; κ. οὐ στέργων ὅμως <span class="bibl">Id.<span class="title">Th.</span>712</span>; κ. οὐ δύσοργος ὤν <span class="bibl">S.<span class="title">Ph.</span>377</span>: preceded by [[ὅμως]], <span class="bibl">Pl. <span class="title">R.</span>495d</span>: the part. must freq. be supplied, <b class="b3">καὶ θεός περ</b> ([[ὤν]]) <span class="bibl">A.<span class="title">Ag.</span> 1203</span>; <b class="b3">γιγνώσκω σαφῶς, κ. σκοτεινὸς</b> ([[ὤν]]), τήν γε σὴν αὐδὴν ὅμως <span class="bibl">S.<span class="title">OT</span> 1326</span>; also <b class="b3">εἰ μέμονάς γε, καὶ ὀψέ περ</b> ([[ἐρυόμενος]]),… ἐρύεσθαι <span class="bibl">Il.9.247</span>; <b class="b3">ἐπιμνησαίμεθα Χάρμης, καὶ πρὸς δαίμονά περ</b> ([[μαχούμενοι]]) <span class="bibl">17.104</span>; <b class="b3">λέγεις ἀληθῆ, κ. ἐκ μακροῦ Χρόνου</b> ([[λέγων]]) <span class="bibl">S.<span class="title">OT</span>1141</span>; <b class="b3">ἀλλ' ἔστιν ὧν δεῖ, κ. οὐ πολλῶν ἄπο</b>, = [[καίπερ οὐ πολλῶν ὄντων]], <span class="bibl">Id.<span class="title">Ph.</span>647</span>: with finite Verbs only as dub. l., <b class="b3">κ. ἔχει</b> (leg. [[καἴπερ]]) <span class="bibl">Pi.<span class="title">N.</span>4.36</span>; κ. (leg. [[καίτοι]]) ἐκεῖνό γε ᾤμην τι εἶναι <span class="bibl">Pl.<span class="title">Smp.</span>219c</span>.</span>
|Definition=in Hom. always with a word between (exc.<br><span class="bld">A</span> καί περ πολλὰ παθόντα Od.7.224); but one word in Pi. and Prose, and usually in Trag.<br><span class="bld">I</span> [[even]], καὶ αὐτοί περ πονεώμεθα Il.10.70.<br><span class="bld">II</span> [[although]], [[albeit]], usually c. part., καὶ αὐτῇ περ νοεούσῃ 1.577; καὶ ἀχνύμενός περ ἑταίρου 8.125; καὶ πρίν περ θυμῷ μεμαώς 5.135; καὶ κήδεά περ πεπαθυίῃ Od.17.555: so in later Poets, καίπερ ἀχνύμενος Pi.''I.''8(7).4, cf. ''N.''6.6; καὶ θοῦρός περ ὤν A.''Fr.''199.2; καίπερ αὐθάδη φρονῶν Id.''Pr.''907; καίπερ οὐ στέργων ὅμως Id.''Th.''712; καίπερ οὐ δύσοργος ὤν S.''Ph.''377: preceded by [[ὅμως]], Pl. ''R.''495d: the part. must freq. be supplied, <b class="b3">καὶ θεός περ</b> ([[ὤν]]) A.''Ag.'' 1203; <b class="b3">γιγνώσκω σαφῶς, καίπερ σκοτεινὸς</b> ([[ὤν]]), τήν γε σὴν αὐδὴν ὅμως S.''OT'' 1326; also <b class="b3">εἰ μέμονάς γε, καὶ ὀψέ περ</b> ([[ἐρυόμενος]]),… ἐρύεσθαι Il.9.247; <b class="b3">ἐπιμνησαίμεθα Χάρμης, καὶ πρὸς δαίμονά περ</b> ([[μαχούμενοι]]) 17.104; <b class="b3">λέγεις ἀληθῆ, καίπερ ἐκ μακροῦ Χρόνου</b> ([[λέγων]]) S.''OT''1141; <b class="b3">ἀλλ' ἔστιν ὧν δεῖ, καίπερ οὐ πολλῶν ἄπο</b>, = [[καίπερ οὐ πολλῶν ὄντων]], Id.''Ph.''647: with finite Verbs only as dub. l., <b class="b3">καίπερ ἔχει</b> (leg. [[καἴπερ]]) Pi.''N.''4.36; καίπερ (leg. [[καίτοι]]) ἐκεῖνό γε ᾤμην τι εἶναι Pl.''Smp.''219c.
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|elnltext=καίπερ, ep. καί... περ, met ptc. (soms ptc. aan te vullen) hoewel, ook al:. καὶ ἀχνύμενός περ hoe bedroefd ook Il. 8.125; καί περ πολλὰ παθόντα al heb ik veel geleden Od. 7.224; καὶ θεός περ ( ''[[sc.]]'' ὤν ) ook al was hij een god Aeschl. Ag. 1203.
|elnltext=καίπερ, ep. καί... περ, met ptc. (soms ptc. aan te vullen) [[hoewel]], ook al:. καὶ ἀχνύμενός περ hoe bedroefd ook Il. 8.125; καί περ πολλὰ παθόντα al heb ik veel geleden Od. 7.224; καὶ θεός περ ( ''[[sc.]]'' ὤν ) ook al was hij een god Aeschl. Ag. 1203.
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|elrutext='''καίπερ:''' (у Hom. почти всегда in tmesi) хотя, хотя бы (даже): καὶ ἀχνύμενός περ Hom. хотя и удрученный; μητρὶ δ᾽ ἐγὼ [[παράφημι]], καὶ αὐτῇ περ νοεούσῃ Hom. я убеждаю (тебя), мать, хотя и сама ты (все) знаешь; κ. ἐκεῖνό γε ᾤμην τι εἶναι Plat. а я-то (досл. хотя я) думал, что это имеет какое-л. значение.
|elrutext='''καίπερ:''' (у Hom. почти всегда in tmesi) [[хотя]], [[хотя бы]] (даже): καὶ ἀχνύμενός περ Hom. хотя и удрученный; μητρὶ δ᾽ ἐγὼ [[παράφημι]], καὶ αὐτῇ περ νοεούσῃ Hom. я убеждаю (тебя), [[мать]], хотя и сама ты (все) знаешь; καίπερ ἐκεῖνό γε ᾤμην τι εἶναι Plat. а я-то (досл. хотя я) думал, что это имеет какое-л. значение.
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