ὁμοῦ ἦν καὶ ἔχειν τὴν πόλιν καὶ τὸ γένος ὅλον μετὰ τῆς πόλεως → it was much the same thing to have the city and to have the whole race together with the city
hermurmeln, demurmurare alqd (murmelnd hersagen, z.B. carmen.