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|Definition=οἱ, [[the legs and feet of a sheep-skin]], and so generally, [[offal]], <span class="bibl">Ar.<span class="title">V.</span>672</span>.
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|btext=ων ([[οἱ]]) :<br />pattes qui restent attachées à une dépouille d'animal ; <i>fig.</i> accessoires, inutiles.<br />'''Étymologie:''' [[ἀργός]]², [[λόφος]].
|btext=ων (οἱ) :<br />pattes qui restent attachées à une dépouille d'animal ; <i>fig.</i> [[accessoires]], [[inutiles]].<br />'''Étymologie:''' [[ἀργός]]², [[λόφος]].
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|ptext=οἱ, nach Schol. Ar. τῆς μηλωτῆς οἱ πόδες, οὓς ποδεῶνας καλοῦσι, nach <i>B.A</i>. p. 8 att. Form für ποδεῶνες, und zwar κωδίων καὶ ἀσκῶν, also überhaupt unbrauchbarer [[Abgang]], Ar. <i>Vesp</i>. 672.
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|lsmtext='''ἀργέλοφοι:''' -ων, οἱ, πόδια από [[προβιά]] προβάτου ή ασκού που έχει φτιαχτεί από [[δέρμα]] προβάτου· κατά [[συνέπεια]] γενικά, περιττό, [[απομεινάρι]], [[λείψανο]], σε Αριστοφ. (αμφίβ. προέλ.).
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|etymtx=Grammatical information: m. pl.<br />Meaning: [[legs and feet of a sheep-skin]], generally [[offal]] (Ar. V. 672 only).<br />Other forms: Cf. <b class="b3">ἀργίλοφοι· λαπάραι κωδίων</b> [read: [[κῳδίων]] [[sheepskin]]]<b class="b3">· οἱ δε πρωκτόν</b>. <b class="b3">καὶ μηλωταί</b> (sheepskin) H.<br />Dialectal forms: Acc. to the sch. and AB 8 Attic for [[ποδεῶνες]] [[ragged ends of the skins of animals]].<br />Origin: PG [a word of Pre-Greek origin]X [probably]<br />Etymology: Derivation from [[ἀργός]] (but a form in <b class="b3">-ε-</b> is then impossible) and [[λόφος]] "kann jedenfalls unmöglich richtig sein" (Frisk). One is inclined to consider it as a momentary creation of Aristophanes, but how could his audience then have understood him? Rather simply a word that we do not know. Fur. 358 adduces the gloss with <b class="b3">-ι-</b>, which prob. demonstrates a substr. origin. He calls the gloss "völlig unklar", but it is clearly the useless parts of a sheep(skin) (also the meanings [[anus]] or [[membrum virile]] (for [[ποδεών]])). A Pre-Gr. word seems probable (e.g. <b class="b2">*arg-aly-ap-</b> or [[-apʷ-]]?).
|etymtx=Grammatical information: m. pl.<br />Meaning: [[legs and feet of a sheep-skin]], generally [[offal]] (Ar. V. 672 only).<br />Other forms: Cf. <b class="b3">ἀργίλοφοι· λαπάραι κωδίων</b> [read: [[κῳδίων]] [[sheepskin]]]<b class="b3">· οἱ δε πρωκτόν</b>. <b class="b3">καὶ μηλωταί</b> (sheepskin) H.<br />Dialectal forms: Acc. to the sch. and AB 8 Attic for [[ποδεῶνες]] [[ragged ends of the skins of animals]].<br />Origin: PG [a word of Pre-Greek origin]X [probably]<br />Etymology: Derivation from [[ἀργός]] (but a form in <b class="b3">-ε-</b> is then impossible) and [[λόφος]] "kann jedenfalls unmöglich richtig sein" (Frisk). One is inclined to consider it as a momentary creation of Aristophanes, but how could his audience then have understood him? Rater simply a word that we do not know. Fur. 358 adduces the gloss with <b class="b3">-ι-</b>, which prob. demonstrates a substr. origin. He calls the gloss "völlig unklar", but it is clearly the useless parts of a sheep(skin) (also the meanings [[anus]] or [[membrum virile]] (for [[ποδεών]])). A Pre-Gr. word seems probable (e.g. <b class="b2">*arg-aly-ap-</b> or [[-apʷ-]]?).
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Latest revision as of 15:16, 16 April 2024

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Full diacritics: ἀργέλοφοι Medium diacritics: ἀργέλοφοι Low diacritics: αργέλοφοι Capitals: ΑΡΓΕΛΟΦΟΙ
Transliteration A: argélophoi Transliteration B: argelophoi Transliteration C: argelofoi Beta Code: a)rge/lofoi

English (LSJ)

οἱ, the legs and feet of a sheep-skin, and so generally, offal, Ar.V.672.

Spanish (DGE)

-ων, οἱ
• Grafía: graf. ἀργιλ- Hsch.
1 recortes, raeduras de las pieles o el cuero, Phryn.PS 11.1, Hsch., AB 443, Sch.Ar.V.672.
2 fig. desechos τῆς ἀρχῆς Ar.V.672.

French (Bailly abrégé)

ων (οἱ) :
pattes qui restent attachées à une dépouille d'animal ; fig. accessoires, inutiles.
Étymologie: ἀργός², λόφος.

German (Pape)

οἱ, nach Schol. Ar. τῆς μηλωτῆς οἱ πόδες, οὓς ποδεῶνας καλοῦσι, nach B.A. p. 8 att. Form für ποδεῶνες, und zwar κωδίων καὶ ἀσκῶν, also überhaupt unbrauchbarer Abgang, Ar. Vesp. 672.

Russian (Dvoretsky)

ἀργέλοφοι: οἱ досл. ножки овечьих шкур, перен. отбросы, отходы Arph.

Greek (Liddell-Scott)

ἀργέλοφοι: -ων, οἱ, «ἀργέλοφοι, Ἀττικῶς˙ σημαίνει δὲ τοὺς ποδεῶνας τῶν κωδίων καὶ τῶν ἀσκῶν˙ ποδεὼν δὲ Ἰωνικῶς» Φρύν. ἐν Α. Β. 8, 14˙ ἄχρηστος, σὺ δὲ τῆς ἀρχῆς ἀγαπᾷς τῆς σῆς τοὺς ἀργελόφους περιτρώγων, «τὰ περιττὰ καὶ ἄχρηστα˙ ἀργέλοφοι γὰρ τῆς μηλωτῆς οἱ πόδες, οὓς ποδεῶνας καλοῦσι, καὶ οὗτοι ἄχρηστοι (Σχόλ.), Ἀριστοφ. Σφ. 672.

Greek Monotonic

ἀργέλοφοι: -ων, οἱ, πόδια από προβιά προβάτου ή ασκού που έχει φτιαχτεί από δέρμα προβάτου· κατά συνέπεια γενικά, περιττό, απομεινάρι, λείψανο, σε Αριστοφ. (αμφίβ. προέλ.).

Frisk Etymological English

Grammatical information: m. pl.
Meaning: legs and feet of a sheep-skin, generally offal (Ar. V. 672 only).
Other forms: Cf. ἀργίλοφοι· λαπάραι κωδίων [read: κῳδίων sheepskin]· οἱ δε πρωκτόν. καὶ μηλωταί (sheepskin) H.
Dialectal forms: Acc. to the sch. and AB 8 Attic for ποδεῶνες ragged ends of the skins of animals.
Origin: PG [a word of Pre-Greek origin]X [probably]
Etymology: Derivation from ἀργός (but a form in -ε- is then impossible) and λόφος "kann jedenfalls unmöglich richtig sein" (Frisk). One is inclined to consider it as a momentary creation of Aristophanes, but how could his audience then have understood him? Rater simply a word that we do not know. Fur. 358 adduces the gloss with -ι-, which prob. demonstrates a substr. origin. He calls the gloss "völlig unklar", but it is clearly the useless parts of a sheep(skin) (also the meanings anus or membrum virile (for ποδεών)). A Pre-Gr. word seems probable (e.g. *arg-aly-ap- or -apʷ-?).

Middle Liddell

[deriv. uncertain].]
the feet of a sheep-skin, and so, generally, offal, Ar.

Frisk Etymology German

ἀργέλοφοι: (Ar. V. 672).
{argélophoi}
Grammar: m. pl.
Meaning: Nach den Sch. und nach AB 8 die Füße des Schaffells, attisch für ποδεῶνες, auch unbrauchbarer Abgang im allg.
Etymology: Vielleicht mit Bq eine scherzhafte Zufälligkeitsbildung des Ar.; die antike Herleitung aus ἀργός und λόφος kann jedenfalls unmöglich richtig sein.
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