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|etymtx=Grammatical information: m. pl.<br />Meaning: <b class="b2">stone or metal blocks on both sides of the altar on which the spits rested</b> (I 214, Eup., Att. inscr.; Chapouthier Rev. Ét. anc. 43, 12ff.); also [[support of a pavement]] (Lebadea).<br />Other forms: <b class="b3">κραδαυταί</b> Att. inscr. (Solmsen KZ42, 221ff.).<br />Derivatives: <b class="b3">κρατευτήρια</b> pl. <b class="b2">id.</b> (Poll. 6, 89; after the nom. instr. in <b class="b3">-τήριον</b>).<br />Origin: PG [a word of Pre-Greek origin]<br />Etymology: The connection of Fick KZ 22, 230 with <b class="b3">κράτος</b>, <b class="b3">κρατύς</b> and <b class="b3">τελευτή</b> leads nowhere; cf. Aristarchus: <b class="b3">ἀπὸ τοῦ διακρατεῖσθαι τοὺς ὀβελίσκους ἐπὶ τούτων</b> (<b class="b3">τῶν βάσεων</b>) <b class="b3">κειμένους</b>. Also an assumed verb <b class="b3">κρατεύω</b> = <b class="b3">κρατύνω</b> | |etymtx=Grammatical information: m. pl.<br />Meaning: <b class="b2">stone or metal blocks on both sides of the altar on which the spits rested</b> (I 214, Eup., Att. inscr.; Chapouthier Rev. Ét. anc. 43, 12ff.); also [[support of a pavement]] (Lebadea).<br />Other forms: <b class="b3">κραδαυταί</b> Att. inscr. (Solmsen KZ42, 221ff.).<br />Derivatives: <b class="b3">κρατευτήρια</b> pl. <b class="b2">id.</b> (Poll. 6, 89; after the nom. instr. in <b class="b3">-τήριον</b>).<br />Origin: PG [a word of Pre-Greek origin]<br />Etymology: The connection of Fick KZ 22, 230 with <b class="b3">κράτος</b>, <b class="b3">κρατύς</b> and <b class="b3">τελευτή</b> leads nowhere; cf. Aristarchus: <b class="b3">ἀπὸ τοῦ διακρατεῖσθαι τοὺς ὀβελίσκους ἐπὶ τούτων</b> (<b class="b3">τῶν βάσεων</b>) <b class="b3">κειμένους</b>. Also an assumed verb <b class="b3">κρατεύω</b> = <b class="b3">κρατύνω</b> [[make fest]] (?) does not help. The rare by-form <b class="b3">κραδευταί</b> (Att. inscr.; cf. Solmsen KZ 42, 221 ff.) cannot be explained as folketymological transformation after <b class="b3">κραδάω</b>; the other way round does not give a solution either. Fur. 181 concludes rightly to a loan, with <b class="b3">δ</b> \/ <b class="b3">τ</b>, esp. as <b class="b3">βασκευταί</b> is also clearly a foreign loan. | ||
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Revision as of 21:50, 30 June 2020
English (LSJ)
ῶν, οἱ,
A stone or metal blocks on which a spit rests, Il.9.214, cf. Sch., Paus.Gr.Fr.236; μολύβδινοι κ. Eup.171, cf. IG22.1425.388 (written κραδευταί ib.1425.415, 1541.20). 2 in Archit., stones which support a pavement, ib.7.3073.105, al.(Lebad.). 3 leaden pigs of specified weight, IG12.371.13.
Greek (Liddell-Scott)
κρᾰτευταί: -ῶν, οἱ, αἱ βάσεις, ἐφ’ ὧν οἱ ὀβελοὶ τίθενται πρὸς ὄπτησιν, πάσσε δ’ ἁλὸς θείοιο, κρατευτάων ἐπαείρας, «τῶν βάσεων, ὅ ἐστι τῶν λίθων ἐφ’ ὧν οἱ ὀβελίσκοι τίθενται ὀπτωμένων τῶν κρεῶν» Σχόλ., Ἰλ. Ι. 214, ἔνθα ἴδε Spitzn· μολύβδιναι κρ. Εὔπολ. ἐν «Κόλαξι» 22: ― ὡσαύτως κρᾰτευτήριον, τό, ἢ κρατευτήρια, τά, Πολυδ. Ϛ΄, 89, Ι΄, 97.
French (Bailly abrégé)
ῶν (οἱ) :
sorte de chenets en pierre ou en fer pour soutenir la broche.
Étymologie: κρατέω.
English (Autenrieth)
explained by Aristarchus as head-stones, on which the spits were rested in roasting meat; cf. our ‘fire-dogs,’ ‘andirons.’ Possibly the shape was like the horns (κέρας) on the altar in cut No. 95. Il. 9.214†.
Greek Monotonic
κρᾰτευταί: -ῶν, οἱ, βάσεις ή σκελετός πάνω στον οποίο γυρνούσαν οι σούβλες, σε Ομήρ. Ιλ. (αμφίβ. προέλ.).
Dutch (Woordenboekgrieks.nl)
κρατευταί -ῶν, οἱ [~ κράτος?] stutten.
Russian (Dvoretsky)
κρᾰτευταί: οἱ подставка для вертела Hom.
Frisk Etymological English
Grammatical information: m. pl.
Meaning: stone or metal blocks on both sides of the altar on which the spits rested (I 214, Eup., Att. inscr.; Chapouthier Rev. Ét. anc. 43, 12ff.); also support of a pavement (Lebadea).
Other forms: κραδαυταί Att. inscr. (Solmsen KZ42, 221ff.).
Derivatives: κρατευτήρια pl. id. (Poll. 6, 89; after the nom. instr. in -τήριον).
Origin: PG [a word of Pre-Greek origin]
Etymology: The connection of Fick KZ 22, 230 with κράτος, κρατύς and τελευτή leads nowhere; cf. Aristarchus: ἀπὸ τοῦ διακρατεῖσθαι τοὺς ὀβελίσκους ἐπὶ τούτων (τῶν βάσεων) κειμένους. Also an assumed verb κρατεύω = κρατύνω make fest (?) does not help. The rare by-form κραδευταί (Att. inscr.; cf. Solmsen KZ 42, 221 ff.) cannot be explained as folketymological transformation after κραδάω; the other way round does not give a solution either. Fur. 181 concludes rightly to a loan, with δ \/ τ, esp. as βασκευταί is also clearly a foreign loan.
Middle Liddell
the forked stand or frame on which a spit turns, Il. [deriv. uncertain]
Frisk Etymology German
κρατευταί: {krateutaí}
Grammar: m. pl.
Meaning: ‘Stützsteine, (tönerne) Aufsätze an beiden Seiten des Opferaltars als Stützen für die Bratspieße’ (I 214, Eup., att. Inschr.; Chapouthier Rev. ét. anc. 43, 12ff.), auch Stützsteine eines Pflasters (Lebadea), Bleigänse (att. Inschr.).
Derivative: Davon κρατευτήρια pl. ib. (Poll. 6, 89; nach den Nom. instr. auf -τήριον).
Etymology : Letzten Endes wohl mit Fick KZ 22, 230 zu κράτος, κρατύς wie τελευτή zu τέλος; vgl. Aristarch: ἀπὸ τοῦ διακρατεῖσθαι τοὺς ὀβελίσκους ἐπὶ τούτων (τῶν βάσεων) κειμένους. Als Zwischenglied mag ein Verb κρατεύω (κεκ[ράτ]ευκα nur IG 14, 1794) = κρατύνω fest machen, befestigen gedient haben; vgl. noch den maked. PN Κρατεύας. Die seltene Nebenform κραδευταί (att. Inschr.; vgl. Solmsen KZ 42, 221 ff.) ist als volksetymologische Umwandlung nach κραδάω, -αίνω verständlich. Anders Schwyzer 257 mit G.Meyer und Brugmann: κρατ-aus κραδ- durch Assimilation oder (Brugmann) Volksetymologie. Einzelheiten bei Fraenkel Nom. ag. 1, 20 A. 1.
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